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	<title>Comments on: The Star: Possession is 3/4 of the playoffs</title>
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		<title>By: Phil Curry</title>
		<link>http://www.depthockeyanalytics.com/uncategorized/the-star-possession-is-34-of-the-playoffs/#comment-6516</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil Curry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2014 00:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, first of all, this study was looking at the predictiveness of regular season possession for success in the playoffs, not getting into them. So the fact that the Devils didn&#039;t make the playoffs is not very relevant to the analysis here. What it does suggest, however, is that if they had managed to sneak in as a wildcard, for example, then they would have a very good chance of pulling off an &quot;upset&quot;.

And secondly, nobody is saying that possession stats &lt;strong&gt;perfectly&lt;/strong&gt; correlate with success. There will always be teams that are good at possession who don&#039;t qualify for the playoffs, as happened to the Devils this year and last, and teams that get into the playoffs despite being poor possession teams. Possession isn&#039;t everything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, first of all, this study was looking at the predictiveness of regular season possession for success in the playoffs, not getting into them. So the fact that the Devils didn't make the playoffs is not very relevant to the analysis here. What it does suggest, however, is that if they had managed to sneak in as a wildcard, for example, then they would have a very good chance of pulling off an "upset".</p>
<p>And secondly, nobody is saying that possession stats <strong>perfectly</strong> correlate with success. There will always be teams that are good at possession who don't qualify for the playoffs, as happened to the Devils this year and last, and teams that get into the playoffs despite being poor possession teams. Possession isn't everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Curry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil Curry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2014 00:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Kato,

Thanks for the comment. Your comments about the importance of goaltending and shooting are well taken, but they are important for answering a different question than the one I was looking at. Possession metrics within a series as well as PDO help explain why teams win series from a retrospective viewpoint. That is, it helps us understand the relative importance of these things in determining the winner of a series. The question I was more interested in was more predictive in nature. That is, before the series starts, which team should we view as the favourite and which is the underdog? And by how much? As it turns out, teams with fewer points in the standings may be more likely to win a series than the team ahead of them - if they were a better possession team. This is not at all obvious, as there already is a strong correlation between a team&#039;s possession stats and its regular season points. But it turns out that, even after a full season of play, possession stats matter above and beyond how they affect a team&#039;s points. One possible (and in my opinion, likely) explanation for this is what you&#039;ve pointed out - teams play differently in the playoffs, and possession matters even more then.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kato,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment. Your comments about the importance of goaltending and shooting are well taken, but they are important for answering a different question than the one I was looking at. Possession metrics within a series as well as PDO help explain why teams win series from a retrospective viewpoint. That is, it helps us understand the relative importance of these things in determining the winner of a series. The question I was more interested in was more predictive in nature. That is, before the series starts, which team should we view as the favourite and which is the underdog? And by how much? As it turns out, teams with fewer points in the standings may be more likely to win a series than the team ahead of them - if they were a better possession team. This is not at all obvious, as there already is a strong correlation between a team's possession stats and its regular season points. But it turns out that, even after a full season of play, possession stats matter above and beyond how they affect a team's points. One possible (and in my opinion, likely) explanation for this is what you've pointed out - teams play differently in the playoffs, and possession matters even more then.</p>
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		<title>By: Kato</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kato]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2014 12:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t disagree with the premise - that possession stats are important - but using &#039;regular season&#039; possession stats to justify playoff outcomes is far less relevant than using playoff possession stats.  

Take a look at the head to head playoff C% and you&#039;ll see that quite a few series were won by the teams with the better PDO (goaltending and shooting %) rather than the ones with the better C%.  

Teams play different in the playoffs - you can&#039;t ignore that in your analysis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't disagree with the premise - that possession stats are important - but using 'regular season' possession stats to justify playoff outcomes is far less relevant than using playoff possession stats.  </p>
<p>Take a look at the head to head playoff C% and you'll see that quite a few series were won by the teams with the better PDO (goaltending and shooting %) rather than the ones with the better C%.  </p>
<p>Teams play different in the playoffs - you can't ignore that in your analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: JRM</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JRM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2014 04:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Then how do you explain the New Jersey Devils 2013-14 playoff-less season?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then how do you explain the New Jersey Devils 2013-14 playoff-less season?</p>
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